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Elastomeric or liquid waterproofing membranes are one of the most convenient methods of waterproofing shower walls before installing tile. Also apply membrane over any uncovered backer board and screw heads. I’ve decided to have my privacy violated and start putting things on Facebook. However, Killz will bond to it, and paint will bond to the Killz. Install the tile work onto the membrane but do not bridge the joint. The versatility of these products make them a integral part of my shower waterproofing toolbox. Thanks- my picture is what the shower looks like after scraping as much redguard off the pan (and skin off my knuckles) as I could, I left the corners and curb- is this what I was supposed to do? If it’s too large to fill with caulk it’s too large to fill with redgard. Or, should we only RedGard where we think we are going to have tile, and then use joint compound on the DuraRock to smooth it out a bit before painting? Am I probably fine for an infrequently used shower in a basement bathroom? They are a bit expensive. I have almost an inch gap between Saltillo and the wall where custom building products commercial silicone has stood up for almost 5 years. You can post photos stored on your computer at any time, Margaret. That is a five foot back wall with two 3 foot side walls. He did the pre-slope, curb, liner, & mud. If you are using a roller Custom (the company that makes redgard) recommends that you roll on the first coat horizontally and the second coat vertically to ensure full coverage. And because every shower design is different we offer a variety of entrances as well: single curb, double curb, triple curb, or barrier free. Killz is the most readily available, but any drywall or paint primer will work fine. Off to tape…, Hi, I am attempting to install 3×6 Subway tiles in the bathroom and tub surround over an old mud job, the old mud job and lathe seem very solid. Creates more problems that did not exist and 2. This may lead to mold.You must also tape the backerboard seams with fiberglass mesh drywall tape. Unless you meant ‘can I tape the gap and use redgard over it’, in which case the answer is yes. I have not yet tiled, but just saw that this extra waterproofing could cause me problems. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I would tile the floor leaving a grout joint against the drain and then screw the drain down until it is even with the tiles. If that is what you have going on, a wall tile installation, then that is okay. From what I have read, the premixed thinset does not dry out to form a good adhesive bond when applied over/under a non-permeable membrane like Redguard or the Kerdi-band products. Ideally, it’s best to apply Redgard directly onto concrete or cement backing. However, we are more than likely not tiling all the way to the ceiling. Their product choices include a wide range of sizes, curb widths, drain type/shape/locations, with/without bench, and shape choices (rectangle, neo, etc.). How thick should redgard be applied on a shower wall? Joint compound? Use the Manage Attachments feature below the Reply dialog box. Or can I somehow remove the Redguard?? Then tile over the RedGard. No, you absolutely CAN NOT use tile adhesive (mastic) over the redgard – it will never fully cure. Those big triangular holes in the mud job I filled in with plaster. These products shrink a bit as they dry so you must make sure that it has not shrunk enough to create holes or voids in places such as corners and seams. Left a nice small gap for caulk. (That’s the word on the street…), Help with all your tile needs (and extreme jackassery!). The brand we have is flextile. I would much rather use modified because it is easier to work with, and in my opinion sticks better, but I am being told you shouldn’t use it in a shower because moisture breaks down the polymers in the modified thinset over time. The Redgard is created to prevent cracks that could ultimately damage your tile or stone installation, as well as make the wall behind the tile waterproof. But since it sounds like you are putting RedGard down, I'm going with the assumption the RedGard is going over a concrete slab floor. After the tile work is properly set, follow the architect's and manufacturer's instructions to … No silicone around the drain then- thanks. Can I redgard a shower pan and curb if they have a PVC membrane under it? The only one that has specific requirements is schluter. Margaret, please keep all your project questions on this thread. Please help! I do have a vapor barrier behind the CBU. Also, can the same thinset be used for floor tile in the same bathroom? I am attempting my first tiling project at my house. Thinset? But will unmodified thinset be weaker and not properly hold the tile over time, especially on the ceiling. We used a recommended water resistant dry wall…have properly prepped all the walls and just before we were going to prime them, we were told to apply redgard. And then apply new ceramic tile with thin set?? Does anyone have experience installing vinyl glue-down tile over Redguard? When you are finished you should let the walls completely dry for a day before tiling. Thanks! The other membranes are similar. Thanks for the quick reply. tape over joint. The only drawback for these products, if you choose to look at it that way, would be the price. Double-check...if this is true, there is a preslope, Redgard, then the final setting bed, then the thinset and tile. Redgard has an open shelf life of about one year. I think I'm ready to tile but I have a couple questions before I start. Can I Red Guard a ceramic tile wall. Above the tile will just be painted wall. 1-1.5 hours . Repair of 3 rows of tile at bottom of shower wall and floor. Unless you have a steam shower or something similar, two coats would probably be enough. Yes, you can use silicone first if you want. We can give it a more generic title any time you'd like to suggest one. You can browse through the many Tile Redi choices here. Okay......now I'm really confused. Ideally, the product is made so that you do not ever see the final product behind your brand new substrate. I’ve tiled probably well over 1000 showers in my 20+ years of setting tile directly over backer board and to my knowledge never had a problem. You can get a gallon of Redgard online for about $45.00 plus shipping. I wouldn't do that. No, you’ll need to tape and mud it, then use redgard over that. I have 2 quick questions… 1. Hereof, how long does RedGard need to dry before tiling? Using RedGard under floor and wall tile will create a barrier that will be undisturbed after the tile is installed and grouted. If you are tiling your floor and walls and using a liquid membrane you can find that one here: Liquid Topical Waterproofing Membranes for Floors and Walls. Then set tiles 1/8” above tub shoulder. Paint will not bond to it in my experience. Thanks for the great resource! So we bought some…and I understand how to apply it, however I’m just worried the tile glue we have won’t stick to it. The best solution is to fill the gap with backer-rod, which is just cylindrical foam, then paint the redgard over that. I'm not sure it is designed for direct placement on the pan for tile. Use powdered thinset that you mix with water. Or what can be used on fiberglass shower walls, I do not want to tear the fiberglass shower out, I just want to upgrade it! I think your overthinking it.what are they overthiking ? Yes, since you already have it there just sand it down and apply redgard over it. Primer and paint? Using 12×12 tile. Two proper coats will give you a continuous topical membrane. This is useful in that when it is dry it turns dark red. I followed instructions, but somehow we must of missed a step because everything cracked and water would have poured right through. After all the corners are coated I use a paint roller and pan to cover the walls. You should be fine since it is seldomly used and you only put a thin layer of redgard on it. Now I am reading this is a big mistake as it creates the moisture "sandwich" and will cause mold in a couple weeks/months. Why would you need to tape that edge at the tub flange? I think your overthinking it. (Thanks for that Davis). Hello, This finished tile floor is installed over a plywood and cement backer board subfloor. The contractor told me to put Redguard on the curb and "all over if you want to" so I put Redguard all over the pan and curb and 12" up the Durock. I thought Redguard was … It’s up to you. We have DuraRock from the shower pan all the way to the 9 foot ceiling. Greatly appreciate the help- you guys are the best! Mind you the application I’m inquiring about will not be exposed to any water whatsoever, but it will be exposed to the sun and temperature. What type of thinset and grout should I use for the travertine? Tile-Redi, a leading manufacturer of tile-over pans offers a wide range of shower pans that are ready for tile, including curb and curbless models as well as special features, such as infinity drains, tile-over drains, and shower seats. Redgard is bright pink – I mean pepto-bismol pink, it almost glows in the dark. I’ve read where a lot of people fill the gap between the backer board and tub flanage with silicone and some people fill this area with thinset. Hi Larry, You may be able to get better prices by ordering online but make sure you take shipping costs into consideration. Roger, I have black mastic residue from pulling up linoleum. View Full Version : Redguard mistake on shower pan. Thanks, Bob RobertHeath, Mar 25, 2013 #1. kylenelson You'll find me on the floor I Support TFP Senior Member. ‘Just in case’ normally does two things: 1. But, what then what do we cover the redgard with in the non-tiled area? Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile. Also, I believe modified takes longer to cure and requires aeration, and with Redgard being an impervious layer I feel will not allow it to aerate properly to cure. Should I sand off the Redgard? Thanks in advance! Any information would be helpful and appreciated. These membranes consist of products such as Custom Building Products’ Redgard and Laticrete’s Hydrobarrier and Hydroban and Mapei’s Aquadefense. I had a contractor put in shower pan. Apply a minimum 3/64" (1.2 mm) of RedGard® over the joint and the substrate, following the instructions provided previously. Make sure to check the website for your product, they have a load of information for them. Or, to meet the requirements of ANSI A118.12, apply two thicker coats of RedGard. Really. So here it is : Will redgard stick to pvc and other hard plastics? Unmodified or modified thinset over Redgard in shower walls and ceiling? I have a redi niche installed and am about to put up my CBU. The reason that I don’t recommend the mesh tape with step one (silicone) is that the silicone will act as a bond breaker to thinset if it’s smeared over the surface. Member. Having two barriers this close together leaves open the chance of trapping moisture between them with no way for it to evaporate. Now I am reading this is a big mistake as it creates the moisture "sandwich" and will cause mold in a couple weeks/months. My concern is having a nice flat smooth wall that looks nice when it is painted. You need a full coating for the product to be effective. I’m weird like that. The instructions say to fill the gap with 100% silicone, but I can’t find any info on the CBP website about applying Redgard over silicone. I assume that using some sort of modified thinset is the answer, but which brand? It’s time to finish the shower. Is is densshield or purple-board (or something else)? My son told me all the cool kids are doin’ it! Tile Redi is the most well-known manufacturer of tile-ready shower pans, and most of what they offer is available for purchase on Amazon. I don’t have that luxury at this point! You should be used to it after a few minutes. You must then do a whole second coat the same way. Why does Redguard Fail? Can redgard be painted and if so what kind of paint will stick. No. Now that I've gotten to the tiling stage for my shower (after my redguard mistake) I want to make sure I'm using the correct thinset and grout for my tumbled travertine. Most of the product specifications for these materials state two coats to be sufficient, and it probably is. I wanted to avoid setting a very thin hex mosaic tile … Looking for a rec for the best thinset to use in over Redgard waterproofer on a bath surround install. Also, can Silicone be used (with sufficient drying time) in corners before applying redgard? First of all – ‘water-resisant drywall’? Once the floor is done you then tile the floor first then work up the walls. These materials can be installed with a regular paint brush, paint roller, trowel, or even sprayed on. The floor becomes part of the wall system when you wrap the membrane into the floor system. When it comes to waterproofing and crack isolation in tile assemblies, trust the RedGard brand from Custom Building Products. Your best bet would be to call armstrong's technical services dept. I just want to do the right thing. I need to tile this floor so could I Redgard the mastic residue so my tiles thin set will have a bondable surface? The contractor told me to put Redguard on the curb and "all over if you want to" so I put Redguard all over the pan and curb and 12" up the Durock. Hello, we are tiling our shower. I wouldn't have put it all over the shower floor. Can I use a ceramic tile adhesive over the red guard. kylenelson, Mar 25, 2013 #2. If my gap was around 1/8”, it would be easy to fill with silicone. Nearly any of the powdered adhesives (thinset or mortar) will work fine over redgard, if it’s mastic or another pre-mixed type of adhesive it can not be used over redgard. Original review: Aug. 12, 2020. Redi Base ® one-piece, leakproof shower pans come in over 100 standard models with a variety of sizes and drain locations. Apply a minimum 3/64" (1.2 mm) of RedGard over the joint and substrate following the instructions detailed in APPLICATION. Fill the divot with mud. About 35-40 mils thick, about the thickness of a credit card. I am going to install a redi tile shower pan my question is should I apply red guard to the shower pan before I apply the Redi Poxy epoxy adhesive when I lay the tile. It’ll be fun. We have covered our shower with Redgard and now want to install white glass tile. Posts: 6,480 Received 361 Votes on 337 Posts The only system that can be used over drywall is Ditra and Prova membrane. What are my best options? First let me start by saying that I really appreciate the way you explain how to do proper tile work in just about every possible situation that is involved in the process.Very detail oriented with no bs. These membranes consist of products such as Custom Building Products’ Redgard and Laticrete’s Hydrobarrier and Hydroban and Mapei’s Aquadefense. you should not be using green board to tile onto. RedGard the exposed wall, across the floor, and around the divot and the drain ring. There’s no information on the possible application I may use it for on the bucket or online. Installation doesn’t get easier than this! Is there a solvent other than gasoline or acetone that I should use before I attempt to peel the redguard off? there’s no guarantee it will not take and keep moisture, and may likely fail into a soggy mess. Do I need to rip it out- how about using a blade and trying to get underneath and peel it off? Do you know if it can or should be done? As always, if you have any questions feel free to leave a comment for me. It would be better and easier if you just removed what was presently there. Make sure the first coat has fully changed color before applying the second coat. I'd try gasoline or acetone. Ready-to-use, elastomeric, waterproofing and crack prevention membrane for all interior or exterior commercial and residential tile and stone installations. Can we paint the whole thing with RedGard and then not tile over the Redgard? DuraRock is up and seams are all taped and have thinset on them. Then a scraping I will go- finally have a chance to get at it tonight. Yes, they should be dampened. Any recommended brands or types? Additionally, can you use premixed thinset over redguard? In an effort to make a new basement shower extra waterproof, I put up 6mil vapor barrier on the studs, 1/4 inch hardiebacker on that, and then one thin coat of Redgard on that. Now, let it dry and it's ready to be tiled. I now have manuals describing the complete process for you from bare wall studs all the way up to a completely waterproof shower substrate for your tile. Then, take the remaining half gallon and apply it as a second coat. When I use these products I always use a cement-based backerboard as the wall substrate without a plastic vapor barrier. Click here to get an instruction manual for your waterproofing installation. Can we paint over this white and the tile still stick? Waterproofing membrane is added over the tape. Therefore, the material you place the Redgard putty on is important. Which particular product (brand name). Can you redgard the gap between the tub flange and backer board? They are applied to your shower walls then tile is installed directly onto it. Redi Base® Shower Pans. Take half of a one gallon pail of RedGard and spread it over 25 square feet for the first coat. Just installed Durock on my shower walls, Taped and muddied joints. My client ordered a Redi Tile shower pan which requires using epoxy thinset. In other words, on the floor (as opposed to the walls), I'm not sure if it is intended to be tiled over directly. Everything looked as described in other threads I have read on here. When used on shower walls it is a (relatively) quick, effective water barrier for your installation. —Michal Mroczko is a tile contractor in Atlanta, GA who Self-Leveling Underlayment LevelLite Self-Leveling Underlayment helps LevelLite Self-Leveling Underlayment helps level floors prior to the installation of ceramic You can use any good modified thinset over redgard. Once RedGard has cured, you’re ready to set your tile or stone. You gotta like my page. Declares that whomever is building the shower does not have confidence in their ability to waterproof a shower using a proven method. I don’t know if it’s any help but some good quality silicone caulking should easily fill 1/4”. Redgard will not bond to silicone. Yes, you can run the tape from the backer to the tub and redgard. LevelLite 30 lb. The better option is to mix redgard with 2 parts water, 1 part redgard and use that as your first coat. Seems there’s pros and cons to both. I'd try gasoline or acetone.umm, no. If you are just tiling around your tub or pre-formed shower base you can find that manual here: Liquid Topical Waterproofing Membranes for Shower Walls. Installing tile over a wood subfloor is a lot easier today than it was when I started my remodeling career. Greatly appreciate the response. I will refer to all the membranes as That should be enough to do a regular tub surround. That’s it – go have an adult beverage until it dries. vBulletin® v3.7.4, Copyright ©2000-2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Reduces crack transmission in ceramic tile or stone floors. The gap is greater than 1/4” in some areas and is too big for caulk. I thought maybe the tape and redgard coupled together could fill the gap. We are tiling our 3 shower walls. I will refer to all the membranes as Redgard for the purposes of this post, but they all work nearly the same way. However, due to the potential for inadequate seals, don’t use this product over top of plastic and avoid those plastic barriers commonly used when installing tile … Just thoroughly coat the entire inside of your shower until the whole thing is bright pink – enough so it can be seen from space. Professional Tile Installation Contractor Fort Collins and all of Northern Colorado. If there is water or moisture behind that existing substrate you’ll be sealing it up – that ALWAYS creates issues. You can either stop the redgard at 2″ above the shower head (no water is going to get to it above that), or you can use a primer over the redgard, wall mud (joint compound), then paint. Awesome. I normally use three coats. My dilemma is that the gap is too big in some areas (1/4”). And i was wondering if redgard can be saved if seal tight for future jobs, Thanks. Laticrete’s Hydroban, for instance, goes on light green and dries forest green. Any help is much appreciated! I am using tumbled travertine 1" x1" mosaic for the floor and 8" x 20" for the walls. For larger showers you can also get a 3.5 gallon bucket. If you laid a 12" tile over redgard and assume the redgard is essentially not moving any moisture and neither is the tile, the center middle of that tile's moisture has to now dry through 6" to get to the side of the tile. Redgard will work, but a primer made for self-leveling cement works as well, and is much less expensive. I would use tape and mud, let that cure then redgard over everything. These products can also be used as waterproofing on your shower pans in leiu of a regular pan membrane. When I'm done I'll post a picture to make sure I got enough of it out. "And it won't leak—if you do it correctly." I've had too many experiences with customers telling me about the very slow drying time with pre-mixed tile … Basically any place that does not have waterproofing between the tile and shower framing. I have a existing tile shower. I have done em like you described and had no problems whatsoever. Before applying Redgard, would you recommend taping/thinsetting the seams where the niche meets the CBU? Yes, you can, but why would you? I’m open for suggestions! So do I have to rip out the pan and start over? Your tile can then be installed directly onto your walls over the membrane with a proper thinset mortar. RedGard waterproofing membrane is an easy-to-install solution to prevent water leaks through horizontal and vertical installations. The Tile shop guys said to put Redguard over the cracks and then a thick layer of thinset to raise the tiles flush with the surrounding wood floors. Ready to apply RedGard For my sealer, My question is. Check the respective website for your particular product. Okay- thanks I am going to try to peel it off of the pan....I hope I can get at it- seems to be on there pretty good. This seals the pores of the backer and doesn’t allow it to suck moisture from the layers of redgard as it normally would. RedGard is formulated for tile to be set over it. I do know you can do this with Redgard, Aquadefense, and Hydroban. We are not sure where the tiles will stop (somewhere around 12-16 inches from ceiling), but will gauge as we get near to top and are able to use a full tile at the top and also judge by what looks pleasing to the eye. Install the tile work onto the membrane, but do not bridge the joint. All the cool kids are doin’ it. Elastomeric or liquid waterproofing membranes are one of the most convenient methods of waterproofing shower walls before installing tile. That said it seems to me it would prolong drying. For the shower floor, just spread thinset on the floor with a 1/4x1/4 notch, hard to spread the backs of the tiles. I’m hearing stories about certain Mortar or thinset That you must use with redgard , Is this true. I’m using Durock, Redgard, and a Redi Niche. What type of Primer do you suggest to paint over the RedGard with before applying Joint compound? I saw your site too late. Click Above to have professional TileTips sent directly to your inbox. Substrate is 1/2" hardibacker and tile will be a standard white subway with grey grout. Can redguard be used on fiberglass shower walls? I also use these products for main or additional waterproofing on things like shower niches and concrete wall in basements, places where it is difficult to have a plastic vapor membrane behind the backerboards. My question is about the RedGard. A combination of all of these? Join Date: Sep 2016. Installing Redgard on Shower Walls for Tile, Liquid Topical Waterproofing Membranes for Floors and Walls, Liquid Topical Waterproofing Membranes for Shower Walls, Installing Cement Backerboard for Tile in a Shower. Water proofing is a relatively new concept for shower walls. The easiest way I have found to install Redgard is, after the walls are prepped properly, start with a paint brush and thoroughly coat all the corners and angles. Because I’m using Redgard, can I use mesh tape and thin-set over the seams and then paint on the redgard… Once that is up on the walls, you simply tile over it. STANDING water is the problem, water cannot stand on vertical walls. I was planning on taping this gap and using regard on top of the tape (a couple of coats). Location: USA MI. What are the acceptable methods to waterproofing the redi niche and Durock edges (basically around the niche)? #3 01-15-20, 05:29 AM Marq1. You may be creating a hell of a lot more issues than you want. Pack grout around the drain real well. Water damage prevention is active from both sides of the RedGard membrane. Secondly, it depends on which particular flex tile product you have. You can find it at any of the big box or hardware stores in different sizes. Hi Roger, Anyways, this is not a typical question regarding tile work or anything related to tile although it is a question about redgard. Any of them work. Can I just sand this down and apply Red Guard. Paint? It will bond to pvc and most hard plastics. Using a pre-fab type of flooring system with drain and correct pitch already built into the floor make that part easy. Just need a bit more info to be able to help. Make sure your specific product includes specifications for this application if you choose to do that. I got the redgaurad off - but I would like to post a pic. It is imperative that you do not install plastic behind your walls since this would create two waterproof membranes with your substrate between them. I just skimmed over the screw heads with thinset and red guard over everything. Do backer board walls have to be dampened with a sponge before applying redgard? I always have Redgard with me. If their is any gaps after using red guard on new cement board on 3 rows of tile can you use flex seal over the gaps? When these products set they will create a rubber-like coating on your walls that is waterproof. If that doesn't work, you can always pick at it for a while. Yes, you can also fill it with silicone – it will work, it’s just not the best solution. Previous post: Installing Cement Backerboard for Tile in a Shower. I’m afraid the pores of the concrete are filled in with this mastic so scraping it off is just leaving a slick surface. What I meant was tape the gap with mesh tape from the bottom of the backer board down to the top part of the tub flange and regard over the mesh tape with a couple of coats. The membranes are more the consistancy of pudding than paint so don’t be afraid to scoop it out to spread it. They could use the RedGard using the "divot method" around the drain. 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