ingram v little

It is, I think, a mixed question. The question in each case should be solved in my opinion by applying the test which Mr. Justice Slade applied "How ought "the promisee to have interpreted the promise" in order to find whether a contract has been entered into. When the law avoids a contract ab initio, it does so irrespective of the intentions or opinions or wishes of the parties themselves. The majority of the Court therefore could not accept the view that a contract was entered into. Q.C. Lord Haldane in Lake v. Simmons, 1927 A.C. page 487 has taken the view that the case could be explained on the ground that the fraudulent misrepresentation was not made until after the parties had agreed upon a sale. Here it may well be that the ultimate offeror was the false Hutchinson and the plaintiffs were the "acceptors"; in which case the problem is whether the plaintiffs were intending to deal with or accept an offer from the false Hutchinson physically present or the real Hutchinson of Stanstead House. His eyes as well as his mind rested on Mrs. Davies. Mr. Justice Cleary on page 431 says; "Mr. Gould believed that the woman before him was Mrs. Fawcett "(which she was not) and was the owner of the car (which for "the present purposes she was) and he was in fact dealing with "a person able to make title to the car. What he is saying is that Lord Haldane's reasoning is not to the point as he, Lord Sumner, sees it. The question which was offeror and which was offeree makes no difference to the principle. The question is whether H. was able to pass the property in the car to the defendants so that they can resist a claim based on conversion; and that turns on whether the contract between the plaintiffs and H. was voidable or void. For the vendor refused to discuss the question of selling on credit. Ingram v Little 1961 1 QB 31 7 plaintiffs agreed on a sale price but called it from ACCT 3151 at The Chinese University of Hong Kong Summarise, Explain and Argue: 1. A contrary finding would not be justified unless very clear evidence demanded it. The mistake in identity on such facts is clear and the nature of the contract makes it obvious that identity was of vital importance to the offeror. The fact that the man wrote the name and address on the back of the cheque is an additional indication of the importance attached by the parties to the individuality of G.P.M. But where a cheat passes himself off as another identity (e.g. All these three cases still stand as the law in their respective jurisdictions. If this were the true position there was a "contract with Blenkiron of 37 Wood Street though one that was "voidable against him for his fraud.". Immediately they did discuss them it became plain that they were not ad idem and that no contract had yet been created. Sellers checked in phone book and found was such person In our case the facts lie in the debateable area between the two extremes. Whether the Court when it acts in this way is really ascertaining the intentions of the parties or whether it is simply providing a just solution of their difficulties is a theoretical question which I need not explore. They agreed a price for cash, but when the rogue offered a cheque Elsie said the deal was off. The reasonable man of the law - if he stood in Miss Ingram's shoes - could not give any better answer. In this she was misguided. Opinion for Ingram v. Little Co. of Mary Hospital, 438 N.E.2d 1194, 108 Ill. App. it has been pressed upon us that this is a question of fact and that we ought to give great weight to the answer to it provided by the trial judge. The cheque was in due course dishonoured. appeared for the Respondent, Defendant below. Enjoy it y'all and consider making a donation for my work, it would really help out. Viscount Haldane at page 499 that for the purpose of an entrusting within the meaning of the policy there must be a definite contract. Hutchinson of Stanstead House, Stanstead Road, Caterham who had nothing whatever to do with the transaction in question and knew none of the parties connected with it. But it is only in comparatively recent times that the idea of giving to a court power to apportion loss has found a place in our law. It is perhaps for this reason that we have not been troubled here by any argument about larceny by a trick. In the textbooks cases of mistaken identity are to be found both in the chapters that deal with the formation of contract and in those that deal with the effect of mistake. The question here is whether there was any contract, whether offer and acceptance met. When he offered to pay by cheque the ladies refused to go ahead with the sale. The identity was the man present, and his name was merely one of his attributes. It is often said to have been wronly decided. There the plaintiffs, going to the place of business of Gandell & Co. which consisted only of Thomas Gandell, were fraudulently misled at interviews with his son Edward, an unauthorised clerk in the business, into invoicing goods to Edward Gandell & Co. and paying with a bill of exchange similarly made out. Some of the difficulties and perhaps confusion which have arisen in some of the cases do not in my view arise here. It is clear, therefore, that Lord Haldane's reasoning can be accepted as the ratio decidendi only if it was assented to by Lord Sumner. A fraudster, who called himself Hutchinson, agreed to buy their car for £717. It is the rule also in a case such as Scammell v. Ouston (1941) Appeal Cases 261, where the parties believed them selves to have contracted but had failed to reach agreement on essentials with sufficient particularity. If the defect is one of substance, that is, where the outward form is complete but the necessary consensus is vitiated by mistake, the question is answered by saying that the contract is void. List: 22109 - Principles of Commercial Law Section: Topic 4 - Title Conflicts Next: Lewis v Averay Previous: Four Point Garage v Carter. Prima facie, he, by whatever name he is called, is the person to whom the offer is made. The answer to that question is a finding of fact. The reasoning in the former case was adoped by Mr. Justice Horridge in Phillips v. Brooks (1919) 2 King's Bench, 243, and the latter case is a decision of the New York Court of Appeals. 16th Jul 2019 Lord Blanesburgh based his conclusion on the simple ground that the woman was not a customer, but entirely agreed with the judgment of Viscount Sumner. A buyer came along. List: 22109 - Principles of Commercial Law Section: Topic 4 - Title Conflicts Next: Lewis v Averay Previous: Four Point Garage v Carter. The defendent paid with a check, which bounced. She falsely represented to him that she was Mrs. Van der Borgh and she obtained jewellery from him by falsely representing that she desired to show it to her husband for his approval, and also to a person she named as Commander Digby, who did not in fact exist. Get 1 point on providing a valid sentiment to this Dugdale tells us (p. 596) that ‘WILLIAM INGERAM’ was a witness on 13 March 1418 (5 Henry V) to a deed concerning property in Little Wolford. The Plaintiffs claim was successful. A very neat "puzzle" was recently faced by the Court of Appeal in the case of Ingram v. Little… In Lake v. Simmons 1927 Appeal cases 487, the Court was dealing with a somewhat different problem, namely whether a jeweller had "entrusted" possession of jewellery to a cheat and it held that he had not. The acceptance must come from one who is so addressed and must itself be addressed to the offeror. Has it been sufficiently shown in the particular circumstances that, contrary to the prima facie presumption, a party was not contracting with the physical person to whom he uttered the offer, but with another individual whom (to the other party's knowledge) he believed to be the physical person present. The offer, as in the instant case, was addressed to a person who held himself out as willing to do business. If the fatal defect goes to form, the question is answered with a simple negative and the case is put under the head of formation. I must therefore embark on the difficult task of ascertaining what the true ratio is. 31 is an English Contract Law case concerning the matter of mistake to identity. Facts: The Plaintiffs were joint owners of a car. All he was interested in was "to ensure that he was dealing with the true owner, and indeed "he was. 3716 Division St, North Little Rock, AR 72118. The policy was against (inter alia) theft, but subject to an exception on which the argument turned. The presumption that the parties intend to deal with the person in front of them was not displaced. I think that the operative part of his reasoning begins at page 507 after he has set out the policy. Of him they knew nothing, and of him they "never thought. Disclaimer: This work was produced by one of our expert legal writers, as a learning aid to help you with your studies. She should have concerned herself with creditworthiness rather than with identity. 3, s.602, cites them and a number of others and states the general principle in the United States as follow: "The Courts held that if A appeared in person before B, impersonating C, an innocent purchaser from A gets the property in the goods against B". His physical presence identified by sight and hearing preponderates over vagaries of nomenclature. It is adopted in Benjamin on Sale, 8th edition, page 102, where two decisions in the United States are referred to, Edmunds v. Merchants Despatch (1883) 135 Massachusetts Reports, 283, and Phelps v. McQuade (1917) 220 New York Reports, 232. "There was only one "entity, trading it might be under an alias, and there was a "contract by which the property passed to him" (Lord Justice A. L. Smith, at page 90). The court held that the use of an assumed name by the buyer did not prevent a finding that the plaintiffs, the sellers of some brass rivet wire, had contracted with him. Before the cheque … Continue reading Ingram v Little; 27 Jul 1960 But personal knowledge of the person fraudulently represented cannot I think be an essential feature. That fact is conceded and, whether it is proved simpliciter or proved to the hilt, it does not go say further than to show that she was the victim of fraud. Yet clearly, though difficult, it is not impossible to rebut the prima facie presumption that the offer can be accepted by the person to whom it is physically addressed. After checked the name and address was existed. Did the individuality of G.P.M. The defendant has appealed against this decision alleging that the learned Judge was wrong both in law and in fact in so holding and it will be necessary to examine the facts found as well as the law applied. The appellants' second and third points have to do with the prosecuting attorney's use of Ingram's confession in the course of cross-examining Ingram himself. But even if there had been a concluded agreement before discussion of a cheque, it was rescinded. But, before he gave this statement of his reasons, he made a number of observations that might suggest that he was agreeing with the view expressed by Lord Haldane, though he never in fact said so. With him they never intended to deal. Get free access to the complete judgment in INGRAM v. LITTLE CO. OF MARY HOSPITAL on CaseMine. There can be no doubt upon the authorities that this argument must be settled by enquiring with whom Miss Ingram intended to contract: was it with the person to whom she was speaking or was it with the person whom he represented himself to be? There can be no doubt, as all this difference of opinion shows, that the dividing line between voidness and voidability, between fundamental mistake and incidental deceit, is a very fine one. He proceed to "give "to airy nothing a local habitation and a name." The offer must be addressed to the offeree, either as an individual or as a. member of a class or of the public. Where an offeror makes an offer to the promisee, the offeror is making such an offer only with the person identified and no one else. Previous Addresses: North Little Rock, AR, Little Rock, AR. The plaintiff introduced a grant from the State to John B. Adair for the land in question; and a deed dated 19th Dec. 1833, from Adair to himself. The second reason at page 508 was, I think, an acceptance of Lord Justice Atkin's view of the effect of larceny by a trick. The swindler, whose true name is unknown and whom Mr. Chapman has conveniently described as H, called in answer to the advertisement and after an inspection and negotiation offered f717; and as soon as the figure was agreed produced his cheque book. It held that a person is deemed to contract with the person in front of them unless they can substantially prove that they instead intended to deal with someone else (see also Shogun Finance Ltd v … She was away 5 minutes or a little longer: and during that time the conversation between H. and Miss Elsie Ingram had continued. The plaintiffs were content to sell the car for cash to any purchaser. That may be theoretically arguable, but in my view the Judge's more realistic approach was right. As Devlin LJ pointed out in Ingram v Little, at p 65: ÔÔIf Miss Ingram had been asked whether she intended to contract with the man in the room or with P G M Hutchinson, the question could have no meaning for her, since she believed them both to be one and the same. There was no evidence from the other alleged contracting party 'Hutchinson', the alleged buyer, for he is apparently unknown and untraced but the learned Judge found the plaintiffs evidence satisfactory and reliable and the judgment sufficiently and accurately makes these findings: It was clearly proved that "Hutchinson" was not Mr. P.G.M. Copyright © 2003 - 2020 - LawTeacher is a trading name of All Answers Ltd, a company registered in England and Wales. The question is meaningless. I do not find that case easy to evaluate because the facts are far from clear. Miss Elsie Ingram, who was making the deal on behalf of the plaintiffs, at once said that she would not in any circumstances accept a cheque and she sought to bring the interview to an end. We also have a number of samples, each written to a specific grade, to illustrate the work delivered by our academic services. But mistake is a ground of defence and it is for the defendant to plead it and assert that the contract is not what it seems to be. 154, 258 S.W. Certainly there is no support for the opinion of Lord Haldane in any of the other speeches and, though I recognise his great authority, I prefer to follow Phillips v. Brooks Ltd. (supra), the cases in the United States to which I have referred, and the decision of the majority of the Court of Appeal in the recent case in New Zealand, Fawcett v. Star Car Sales Ltd (supra). He pretended to be a reputable business man and the Plaintiffs then accepted payment by cheque. If the property in the car had passed on the 3rd August to 'the rogue Hutchinson', whatever his true name and identity was, then the defendant would have got a good title on the Judge's findings that Hutchinson and Hardy were but one person 'the rogue Hutchinson' and that the defendant through his servants bought the car in good faith and without notice of the Seller's defect in title. I am content to leave the question open and do not propose to speculate on what other exceptions there may be to the general rule. Ingram Summary Little V. 3.Write a first draft of the summary without looking at the article. This gentleman banked with a branch of Lloyds Bank in London. Preview. I think there may be a doubt in that case whether both the answers should have been in the affirmative but on the facts of the present case I feel no doubt and 1 would uphold the learned Judge's view of no contract. 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